The Science Of Poverty

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Jesse Quintana


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Hello all

It is a privilege to be able to teach and explore the topic of poverty with you all with some incredible conversations. I will tell you that in all the years I have been teaching others about this subject, my reward is seeing the compassion that I choose to communicate with others, catching like wildfire.  I have plenty of topics to last years on this show, plus more.  I promise a few things to you all.


1) I will endeavor to provide the most clear and truthful answer that I can.

2) I am only human, thus I make mistakes. If you hear a mistake by all means, tell me.

3) Respect for all.

4) well, If I can think of any more, I will let you all know.


Poverty is not the best or popular of all subjects to talk about, but I have found that in this subject you will find what humanity truly is.


A few good reads for anyone who is thirsty for knowledge.

The criminalization of poverty.


Statistics and Homeless count for 2015

This year’s Point In Time numbers.


Wondering how many homeless were addicts in 2015?  This may surprise you.

Washington state homeless count.


Based on our last show, we discussed the idea that Native Americans drink too much.  Here is the article in which I referred to.

No, Native Americans aren’t genetically more susceptible to alcoholism.


Our last show, we discussed how the DEA (Drug Enforcement Admin) classifies drugs.  Here is the official description of what a Drug schedule is.

D.E.A. / Drug Scheduling


Transgender individuals and LGBTQ sensitivity training given by Beth Mies from The ORION Project Epic Advocacy   (Sorry, could not do a hyperlink here.)


This is the book I was talking about,  “Boundaries” by Henry Cloud, and John Townsend.  A great read for those of you who need help in how to set your personal boundaries and to keep to them.

For those of you who want more information on the criminalization of the Homeless, and hate crimes against our vulnerable populations please go to


Other links from the Disabilities episode we ran with Meghan Apshaga from Disability Rights Washington.

County Jails, Statewide Problems

The Need for Accessible Voting in Jail:

You Can’t Just “Tell” 

The videos I mentioned:            This links to the trailer for Bottom Dollars, the documentary on the subminimum wage. There is a link to find a screening near you (including the screening at Gonzaga on Oct. 27), and a link to host a screening.             This links to the full documentary, On the Outs, which follows three inmates being released from Washington Dept. of Corrections.

The book that was mentioned is Trauma Stewardship by Laura Van Dernoot Lipsky with Connie Burk.

Lastly, the multimedia report on prison segregation is here:

An updated report on the criminaization of the homeless and those in poverty.

Resources on Suicide prevention.

First Call for Help (Frontier Behavioral Health)

We Can Help

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
1-800-273-8255 (online chatting available)
IMAlive (National)
1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) (online chatting available)
The Trevor Project (LGBTQ Focus)
1-866-488-7386 (online chatting and texting available, limited hours)
Crisis Text Line

Thanks to Melody Youker and Sabrina Votava for this treasure trove of resources.




Guest list

1) Jane,   Jane is a Spokane Community College student.  A student’s perspective on poverty was discussed. 1-26-2016

2) Christine,  Christine is a person who grew up in poverty, and knows nothing but uphill battles with trying to get her family out of their situations. Christine is a special case in that her circumstances challenge what we think poverty to be. 1-2-2016

3) Shar Lichty, Shar is a major advocate for human rights here in Spokane. She recently fought an unsuccessful race for Mayor here in Spokane, loosing to Mayor Condon. Shar has worked a lot with the local Peace and Justice Action League. 1-9-2016

4) Jade, Jade has a unique perspective on poverty, in that her family is of two different cultures. Her Father is Filipino, and her Mother is Mexican. We learned that those two cultures are quite similar and totally different from the US typical view on what poverty is. 1-16-2016

5) Shamerica Daniels, Shamerica works with teens at a Spokane high school.  She identifies at risk individuals, and provides support to those students living in poverty and homelessness. 1-23-2016

5) Karen Kearney, Karen is a high caliber community activist, who spends her time volunteering at the House of charity, an emergency shelter here in Spokane, Wa. We had a great inside look at how great H.O.C. is.

6) Nina and Jane. Nina and Jane are from two totally different backgrounds. Nina has been battling Crohn’s disease since she was 12 years old and as a result has been unable to keep a steady job.  She is home bound because of this disease. Jane is a returning guest who helped us out in this roundtable discussion, of the experiences and discriminations each has felt on their journey.

7) Abraham.  This was a two part show.  Abraham spoke to us about his life in gangs, drug pushing, using, and prison life. With his loved one murdered, it all went downhill from there, pushing him to the brink, and to homelessness.  An incredibly touching journey that will not be forgotten.

8) Jessica Reyes. Jessica, Jessica Has been down that road we all heard about from others, and the media. From Meth, and Heroin, she has become 9 months clean. A feat not many can claim coming from such drugs. Tonight we dive into her story of such a dark place, and how she has, and still is battling for her children with Child Protective Services. Her Homelessness came from loosing her children, and inability to cope.

9) Richard Bocook. Also knows as Harpman Hatter here in Spokane, Washington came in to talk to us about the importance of having a voice and using that voice to stand up for yourself and others.  We talked about who he is, and coupled with the fact that KYRS gives a voice to the underserved, made for a good show for our Spring Fundraiser show.  Had a great time briefly touching up on some important and taboo topics.

10) Marilee Roloff.  Marilee is the Executive Director of Volunteers of America for this region.  Volunteers of America operates The Hope House, an emergency shelter for women. We also talked about Crosswalk, an emergency shelter for youth here in Spokane, Washington. This was an enjoyable conversation, as I learned quite a lot from an awesome and irreplaceable community member here in Washington, and Idaho.

11) Mark Terrell. Mark is the founder and once Executive director of Cup of Cool Water, a local teen advocacy group and agency which operates a drop in center for homeless teens here in Spokane. Had a great conversation, that broke a few negative connotations of a faith based group, mainly discrimination.

12) Mike Helmberger.    Today we talked to Mike Helmberger of Spokane Community Colleges. A mentorship specialist with the opportunity partnership program. The program funding from such an awesome program is through the workforce training and education coordinating board. A program that helps students gain practical hands on knowledge not readily available anywhere else. A valuable resource for anyone trying to get back on their feet from poverty. Education is a vital component for most, if not all individuals in poverty wishing to improve their circumstances.  Mike’s enthusiasm was great and much needed within a subject most often depressing to delve into.

13) Lynn Kimball. Lynn is the Executive Director of Aging and long-term care of Eastern Washington. Lynn spoke to us about poverty, and the elderly.  A subject no one talks about. Coupled with Social security, and quite a few programs to help others into their old age, we talked about all the nuances of such a transition, and all the cliche’s that go into Social Security.

14) Joe Dumlao and Amy Waterman. Joe is an outreach specialist and Amy is a social worker for Spokane Veteran Services here in Spokane.  Had a great conversation about Veteran homelessness, and the phenomena of Veterans leaving the service under the impression that work will be easy to find.

15) Diana Borisovo and Oxana Wren. Diana and Oxana are both from Russia. We had a great exchange of ideas, and thoughts about poverty, and homelessness.

16.) Jane.  Jane from our last show came back to help us discuss for profit colleges and the dangerous possibility of for profit colleges  exploiting our vulnerable.

17) Beth mies, Jane, and Malynda Gilson. Beth and Jane are both from The ORION Project, an advocacy group here in Spokane. Malynda is a member of the LGBTQ community. We all had a great conversation about the facts of this vulnerable population, and the Transgender bathroom bills of North Carolina and Washington state.

18) Cheryle and Sara.  Cheryle and Sara is a mother and daughter who about 15 years ago, experienced domestic violence.  This is their story of how it started, how it was perpetuatied, and how it ended.

19) Pastor Jan Shannon, and Shar Lichty.  Shar Lichty a Social worker, and advocate for our vulnerable here in Spokane, Wa. and Pastor Jan Shannon, Assistant Pastor, Westminster United Church of Christ (UCC) came on the show to talk to us about LGBTQ hate, and the ensuing violence in Orlando.

20) Henry Paz, Kurt Robinson, and William Vanderwater. All three gentleman are from various Christian churches here in Spokane, Wa.  they came in today to help us explore the topic Faith and poverty.  Faith and/or a strong friend/family/agency support system is integeral in helping anyone get off the streets.

21) Edie Rice-Sauer C.E.O. of Transitions. Transitions of Spokane is a nonprofit which specializes in helping Women and Children experiencing poverty and homelessness. Also they help out in Domestic violence situations in providing much needed support for victems. One of my fav shows.

22) Mark Kadel C.E.O. of World Relief.  Mark Kadel spoke with us about Human trafficking.  We had focused on Labor and Sex trafficking specifically.

23) Romney Simpson. Romney is a powerful advocate for our vulnerable populations, namely those that are in poverty.  She helped us explore the topic, myth of the welfare queen.

24) Meribeth Garcia-Davison.  Maribeth is your normal average person until you get to know her.  Meribeth loves to volunteer.  We brought her on the show to get her perspective on what it means to volunteer, and what goes through the volunteers mind.

25) Joseph Pakootas.  Joe came by to the studio today to tell us about his run for Congress in the 5th Congressional district here in Eastern Washington.

26) Frank Korfias.  Frank talked to us from Michigan on the phone.  The interview was unique in that Frank talked to us about if the Government is able to help correct the Homeless problem we have here in our country.  Frank was a Lieutenant Commander in the US Navy, and served with me in the US Navy around 2004.

27) Raven Smith of the show Basement Beats, Les from the show Radioactivity, and Sarah Jane. We talked about our fund drive, and how important it is for public contributions in keeping great shows like ours, The science of poverty going.

28) Meghan Apshaga. Meghan is a Staff Attorney at Disability Rights Washington here in Spokane.  We had talked about some of the difficulties individuals and families face with various disabilities.

29) Colton Gerard. Colton is your typical young adult who is different from many of us.  Colton is a Transgender person, changing from female to male.  We had talked with him about this amazing process, and what that means for him and others who know him.

30) Kevin Oxley. Kevin is the Founder and President of the soon to be nonprofit Free Handyman for Disabled Veterans.  We had talked about his nonprofit. and what he does for our disabled Veterans.

31) Melody Youker and Sabrina Votava. Both individauls work with populations at risk for suicide, and both teach suicide prevention.  This was a two part series. Sabrina Votava is a QPR Master trainer and ASSIST trainer.   Melody Youker is a Case worker at Martin Hall Juvenile Detention center in Medical Lake, Wa.

32) Christine Sheikh. Christine is a teacher in Colorado, who is also a Suni Muslim.  We talked about the social aspects of being a Muslim in America.

33) John Lemus. John is the Commission chair for the Spokane Human Rights Commission.  Had a great conversation about Human rights, and how to advocate for vulnerable populations effectively.

34) Heather lynn Cantamessa. Heather came by to tell us her story about her experience with Child Protective Services, and how she climbed that mountain to get them back.

35) Marsha Valenzuela.  Marsha came by to tell us her story about her experience with Child Protective Services, and how she climbed that mountain to get them back. This is Part 2 of the 4 part series.

36) Ambrosia Eberhardt. Ambrosia came by to tell us her story about her experience with Child protective Services and how she climbed that mountain to get them back. This is part 3 of the 4 part series.

37) Jen and Jeri of F-Yes.  The hosts of the KYRS Radio show F-Yes came by and merged their time with The Science of Poverty in a celebration of anti hate.

38) Mabel Elsom, and Mark Kadel.  Mark is a returning guest.  Mabel is from Family Lutheran services.  Both guests are a part of the Inland NW anti trafficking task force. They both came by to talk to us about the upcoming Anti trafficking candle light vigil here in Spokane, Wa on Sat Jan 14th 2017. We also talked about the basics of what Human trafficking really is.

39) Jade Annasta. Jade is a Transgender person who had wanted to come on the show, and tell her story.  What do Transgender individuals go through in life?

40) David, Yisrael. Came by to tell us his story of being religiously discriminated against at the Union Gospel Mission.

41) Brian Behler,  Brian is the President and CEO of SKILS’KIN, a nonprofit who deals with giving disabled adults a fair chance at employment.

42) Cindy Hamamoto.  Cindy is a Family and crime victim advocate with the MLK center, a nonprofit advocacy agency in Spokane, wa.  So what does an advocate really do?

43) Christine, and Kate Monroe. Christine is the Co host of Nonprofit Spokane.  Kate Monroe is a prospective Co host of The Science of Poverty.  Today we had just talked about the fundraiser.

44) Jason, Heather. Jason and Heather are both volunteers at KYRS.  They both came to the show to talk about what KYRS means to them, and the fundraiser.

45) Bart Logue, Luvimae Omana. Bart Logue is the Spokane Police Ombudsman, and Luvimae Omana is his Administrative Analyst.  Both came by today to talk about the Ombudsman position, and what it takes to put in a complaint or Commendation with the Spokane Police Dept.

46) Betsy White. We will be talking to a Betsy White, she is the Mother of a 9 year old Transgender girl here in Spokane, Wa. Betsy and her family was featured in the Spokesman Review newspaper. Join me as we look at a striking different perspective in the LGBTQ demographic.

47) Mina. This interview covered the background and upbringing behind the voice that we will be hearing on next week’s broadcast.

48) Ben Stuckart.Today we had talked to Spokane city council president Ben Stuckart. We had talked about the criminalization of the homeless, and the laws that are on the books that hurt our most vulnerable.


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